From srh232 at nyu.edu Mon Oct 10 14:36:08 2005 From: srh232 at nyu.edu (Shane Hoversten) Date: Mon Oct 10 14:36:10 2005 Subject: [Pyro-users] Versions of player/stage? Message-ID: <434AB498.7050604@nyu.edu> Hi all - I'd like to use Pyro for a project I'm doing in a robotics class, for which I had planned to use player/stage. However, I need a pioneer robot with a gripper, which the stage 1.3 series has but the newer versions do not. In looking through messages on this list and the online dox I haven't been able to find out which versions of pyro use which versions of player/stage. Could someone point me to where I could find this information? Or, of course, you could just tell me. :) Pyro looks really cool; I hope I can use it. Thanks, Shane From dblank at brynmawr.edu Mon Oct 10 16:55:13 2005 From: dblank at brynmawr.edu (dblank@brynmawr.edu) Date: Mon Oct 10 16:55:18 2005 Subject: [Pyro-users] Versions of player/stage? In-Reply-To: <434AB498.7050604@nyu.edu> References: <434AB498.7050604@nyu.edu> Message-ID: <49485.68.34.179.225.1128977713.squirrel@webmail.brynmawr.edu> Shane, Good news/bad news. The current version of Pyro uses player/stage 1.6.4, which does not have a very good gripper in stage (actually the gripper works, but there does not exist blocks that it can pickup). The Gazebo gripper is pretty flakey---I haven't been able to manually pickup a block yet (they pop out, wiggle, shake, etc). Pyro/Player does support the real gripper on the Pioneers, and that works very nicely. In previous versions of Pyro, it did work well with Player (the 1.3 series that you mention). You can find previous versions of Pyro at: http://pyrorobotics.org/tars/ and notes on Pyro versions here: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=PyroWhatsNew You want the Pyro 3.x series, probably 3.6.1 as we started including support for Player 1.6 in Pyro4. Also, Player 2.0 is looking like it will have a nice working gripper in Gazebo and Stage. As soon as that is released, we will start working on an interface to it. We'll probably call that Pyro5. I would expect to see that in the next few months. Hope that helps! -Doug > Hi all - > > I'd like to use Pyro for a project I'm doing in a robotics class, for > which I had planned to use player/stage. However, I need a pioneer > robot with a gripper, which the stage 1.3 series has but the newer > versions do not. > > In looking through messages on this list and the online dox I haven't > been able to find out which versions of pyro use which versions of > player/stage. Could someone point me to where I could find this > information? Or, of course, you could just tell me. :) > > Pyro looks really cool; I hope I can use it. > > Thanks, > > Shane > _______________________________________________ > Pyro-users mailing list > Pyro-users@emergent.brynmawr.edu > http://emergent.brynmawr.edu/mailman/listinfo/pyro-users > From dblank at brynmawr.edu Mon Oct 17 00:09:57 2005 From: dblank at brynmawr.edu (dblank@brynmawr.edu) Date: Mon Oct 17 00:10:05 2005 Subject: [Pyro-users] Pyro Tutorial Movies Message-ID: <51429.68.34.179.225.1129522197.squirrel@webmail.brynmawr.edu> Pyro users and developers, Just thought I'd let you know about a project that I've been working on that has finally come together. I've put some Pyro Tutorial Movies showing some basic HOWTO's on using Pyro. These desktop movies (sometimes called "screencasts") show a computer screen and come with audio. You can see the first couple of tests here: http://PyroRobotics/video/ I plan to make some more of these myself, especially showing some of the trickier components of Pyro, such as all of the user interface shortcuts, neural network system, and config options. But I also hope that you all might help add to the collection, too! That would include screencasts as well as regular videos. Behaviors, assignments, and HOWTO's would be great to have. WARNING: these aren't professional; they aren't scripted; I basically start talking about a narrow topic, go for 5 or 10 minutes, and stop. But, in the spirit of wikis, open source, and the Pyro community, I thought it be better to get these drafts out sooner than later. And we can improve on them as time goes by. The screencast creation process is actually quite interesting in and of itself. The Linux-based system I'm using takes its images from a VNC server, combines it with an MP3 audio stream, and outputs a Shockwave Flash file. Each component is a bit complex (vnc, mp3, swf) but the most interesting aspect is that the entire process is done in Python! I've begun to document that process here: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=PyroHowtoVideo If you have any trouble running the Flash movies, let me know. I hope that it works across a wide array of computers. -Doug From servando at mac.com Mon Oct 24 11:42:30 2005 From: servando at mac.com (Servando Garcia) Date: Mon Oct 24 11:42:37 2005 Subject: [Pyro-users] install problem Message-ID: Hello all I am trying to install pyrobot-4.0.4.tar which I downloaded from http://pyrorobotics.org/download/software I have received the following errors vision.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [_vision.so] Error1 make[1]: *** Leaving directory '/home/sam/Desktop/robot/pyrobot/vision/cvision' make: *** [vision/cvision] Error 2 I am using Fedora Core 4 From dblank at brynmawr.edu Mon Oct 24 13:18:37 2005 From: dblank at brynmawr.edu (Douglas S. Blank) Date: Mon Oct 24 13:18:50 2005 Subject: [Pyro-users] install problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1130174317.22494.42.camel@mightymouse.brynmawr.edu> On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:42 -0500, Servando Garcia wrote: > Hello all > I am trying to install pyrobot-4.0.4.tar which I downloaded from > http://pyrorobotics.org/download/software > I have received the following errors > > vision.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[1]: *** [_vision.so] Error1 > make[1]: *** Leaving directory > '/home/sam/Desktop/robot/pyrobot/vision/cvision' > make: *** [vision/cvision] Error 2 > > I am using Fedora Core 4 I suspect that your architecture is different from something that may be in the tar file (which shouldn't be). Try: make clean; make and report back the results. I'll try to make sure that .o and .so files are not in the .tar file. -Doug -- Douglas S. Blank Computer Science Assistant Professor Bryn Mawr College (610)526-6501 http://cs.brynmawr.edu/~dblank